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		<title>By: Presentation Zen &#171; Kassblog</title>
		<link>http://technosavvy.org/2005/12/11/the-bulletless-presentation/comment-page-1/#comment-47157</link>
		<dc:creator>Presentation Zen &#171; Kassblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 05:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to Tim Wilson, I have found a terrific collection of presentation tips at Presentation Zen. The site teaches by [...]</description>
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		<title>By: James Tubbs</title>
		<link>http://technosavvy.org/2005/12/11/the-bulletless-presentation/comment-page-1/#comment-3231</link>
		<dc:creator>James Tubbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jan 2006 19:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim,

I&#039;ve been putting Cliff Atkinson&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.beyondbullets.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Beyond Bullet Points&lt;/a&gt; technique into practice for a few months now and the feedback seems to be pretty good.  It&#039;s similar to the methods above, but you tell a story while you go through the slides.  I would definitely check it out and even thinking about buying the book.  

Jamie Tubbs

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been putting Cliff Atkinson&#8217;s <a href="http://www.beyondbullets.com/" rel="nofollow">Beyond Bullet Points</a> technique into practice for a few months now and the feedback seems to be pretty good.  It&#8217;s similar to the methods above, but you tell a story while you go through the slides.  I would definitely check it out and even thinking about buying the book.  </p>
<p>Jamie Tubbs</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Wilson</title>
		<link>http://technosavvy.org/2005/12/11/the-bulletless-presentation/comment-page-1/#comment-2979</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 06:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott, I agree about the extra complexity. I never been one to deliver a talk from a script, but with visuals like the ones in Lessig&#039;s and Hardt&#039;s talks you don&#039;t have much choice. There&#039;s certainly a middle ground (&quot;Lessig-lite&quot; perhaps?) with few slides, but emphasizing the visual elements more than a typical bullet-ridden PowerPoint presentation usually does. 

I would wholeheartedly recommend spending some time at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.edwardtufte.com/tufte/index&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Edward Tufte&#039;s site&lt;/a&gt;. (I think you&#039;re already aware of his work if I&#039;m not mistaken, Scott.) I was probably going more for a Tufte-esque presentation at TIES than I was a fast-paced Lessig one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott, I agree about the extra complexity. I never been one to deliver a talk from a script, but with visuals like the ones in Lessig&#8217;s and Hardt&#8217;s talks you don&#8217;t have much choice. There&#8217;s certainly a middle ground (&#8220;Lessig-lite&#8221; perhaps?) with few slides, but emphasizing the visual elements more than a typical bullet-ridden PowerPoint presentation usually does. </p>
<p>I would wholeheartedly recommend spending some time at <a href="http://www.edwardtufte.com/tufte/index" rel="nofollow">Edward Tufte&#8217;s site</a>. (I think you&#8217;re already aware of his work if I&#8217;m not mistaken, Scott.) I was probably going more for a Tufte-esque presentation at TIES than I was a fast-paced Lessig one.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott McLeod</title>
		<link>http://technosavvy.org/2005/12/11/the-bulletless-presentation/comment-page-1/#comment-2977</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott McLeod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 05:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim, I thought this was pretty interesting stuff. I&#039;ve been digging deep into the two Presentation Zen links you gave. As I watched Dick Hardt&#039;s presentation on Identity 2.0 (http://www.identity20.com/media/OSCON2005/), I was struck by how planned and organized this presentation style has to be. There&#039;s no room for deviation during the presentation, and the planning and slide timing behind this is awfully complex. It&#039;s definitely slick - it just may be more work than most folks have time for. I&#039;ll have to keep thinking about this, and perhaps give it a try (although the thought of having hundreds of PowerPoint slides, rather than 5 to 8, for a 15-minute presentation seems awfully daunting). I need to think also about the idea of handouts - what would you give folks to help them anchor what you&#039;re speaking about? Since at least half of the presentation is visual (what&#039;s on the screen), not oral (what the speaker is saying), anyone who looks down, even for a few seconds, to write or type notes / thoughts misses quite a bit. Provocative stuff - thanks for sharing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim, I thought this was pretty interesting stuff. I&#8217;ve been digging deep into the two Presentation Zen links you gave. As I watched Dick Hardt&#8217;s presentation on Identity 2.0 (<a href="http://www.identity20.com/media/OSCON2005/" rel="nofollow">http://www.identity20.com/media/OSCON2005/</a>), I was struck by how planned and organized this presentation style has to be. There&#8217;s no room for deviation during the presentation, and the planning and slide timing behind this is awfully complex. It&#8217;s definitely slick &#8211; it just may be more work than most folks have time for. I&#8217;ll have to keep thinking about this, and perhaps give it a try (although the thought of having hundreds of PowerPoint slides, rather than 5 to 8, for a 15-minute presentation seems awfully daunting). I need to think also about the idea of handouts &#8211; what would you give folks to help them anchor what you&#8217;re speaking about? Since at least half of the presentation is visual (what&#8217;s on the screen), not oral (what the speaker is saying), anyone who looks down, even for a few seconds, to write or type notes / thoughts misses quite a bit. Provocative stuff &#8211; thanks for sharing.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Anderson</title>
		<link>http://technosavvy.org/2005/12/11/the-bulletless-presentation/comment-page-1/#comment-2897</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2005 06:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim, I&#039;m joining in the band of folks who are begging to see your Keynote™ preso.  Let us in on your success secrets, bud!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim, I&#8217;m joining in the band of folks who are begging to see your Keynote™ preso.  Let us in on your success secrets, bud!</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Dalton</title>
		<link>http://technosavvy.org/2005/12/11/the-bulletless-presentation/comment-page-1/#comment-2890</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Dalton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2005 20:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So... Are you going to put the Keynote presentation online? I&#039;d love to see what you did with it. (Yes, without the audio it&#039;s not the same...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So&#8230; Are you going to put the Keynote presentation online? I&#8217;d love to see what you did with it. (Yes, without the audio it&#8217;s not the same&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They only captured the first 20 minutes or so. I think they&#039;re planning to put it online somewhere, but I&#039;m not sure where yet. I&#039;ll let you know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They only captured the first 20 minutes or so. I think they&#8217;re planning to put it online somewhere, but I&#8217;m not sure where yet. I&#8217;ll let you know.</p>
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		<title>By: John Pederson</title>
		<link>http://technosavvy.org/2005/12/11/the-bulletless-presentation/comment-page-1/#comment-2859</link>
		<dc:creator>John Pederson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim,
I noticed that somebody was grabbing video of this presentation.  Are there any plans to make it available?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim,<br />
I noticed that somebody was grabbing video of this presentation.  Are there any plans to make it available?</p>
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