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	<title>Comments on: STP #8: A chat with the gang</title>
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		<title>By: Bob Hill</title>
		<link>http://technosavvy.org/2005/08/12/stp-8-a-chat-with-the-gang/comment-page-1/#comment-483</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2005 20:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a retired ICT teacher in Scotland (your equivalent of High School) and now a part-time Staff tutor (teaching the teachers).  I was fascinated listening to this podcast. So many of your experiences reflect what happens here in Scotland.  The cutting edge teachers are exploring moodle, blogs, wikis etc where many classroom teachers are still technophobes.  the divergent views between elementary and High school about what information parents want exactly mirrors the views I hear in Staff meetings.  
I am also involved as an online facilitator with a project called masterclass, some 700 teacher volunteers recruited from across Scotland to work together to encourage the use of ICT.  You might well be interested in the umbrella organisation for this project, Learning and Teaching Scotland, www.ltscotland.org.uk.
I should certainly like to hear more of your conversations and have put a feed on your website to that effect.  Mimicking David Warlock, you do need a Brit you know!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a retired ICT teacher in Scotland (your equivalent of High School) and now a part-time Staff tutor (teaching the teachers).  I was fascinated listening to this podcast. So many of your experiences reflect what happens here in Scotland.  The cutting edge teachers are exploring moodle, blogs, wikis etc where many classroom teachers are still technophobes.  the divergent views between elementary and High school about what information parents want exactly mirrors the views I hear in Staff meetings.<br />
I am also involved as an online facilitator with a project called masterclass, some 700 teacher volunteers recruited from across Scotland to work together to encourage the use of ICT.  You might well be interested in the umbrella organisation for this project, Learning and Teaching Scotland, <a href="http://www.ltscotland.org.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.ltscotland.org.uk</a>.<br />
I should certainly like to hear more of your conversations and have put a feed on your website to that effect.  Mimicking David Warlock, you do need a Brit you know!</p>
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		<title>By: 2 Cents Worth &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A Great Podcast Discussion</title>
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		<dc:creator>2 Cents Worth &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A Great Podcast Discussion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2005 12:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Enormous thanks to Kelly Dumont (The Educational Mac) for pointing me in the direction of The Savvy Technologist, a blog and podcast written and produced by Tim Wilson, in Minnesota. In his podcast, STP #8: A chat with the gang, Tim participates in a recorded discussion about Web 2.0 with Tim Lauer, and Will Richardson, moderated by Steve Burt of Clarity Innovations. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Enormous thanks to Kelly Dumont (The Educational Mac) for pointing me in the direction of The Savvy Technologist, a blog and podcast written and produced by Tim Wilson, in Minnesota. In his podcast, STP #8: A chat with the gang, Tim participates in a recorded discussion about Web 2.0 with Tim Lauer, and Will Richardson, moderated by Steve Burt of Clarity Innovations. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David Warlick</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Warlick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2005 12:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A great podcast.  The problem is that people like you and me are listening to this -- people who already believe these things.  As they say, &lt;i&gt;&quot;preaching to the choir&quot;&lt;/i&gt;.  This is important, because you have to teach the choir to sing.  But I agree with Tim, that there needs to be a broader sense of what students and teachers should be doing in the classroom.  It is this broader community who needs to be listening to this podcast.  Wouldn&#039;t it be great if schools made this podcast file available through their school web site here at the beginning of the year.

I think, also, that as a society, we need to come to a consensus on what a successful school and classroom look like.  What do we see going on in them, and what are the measures of success?  Test scores are important.  I gave test when I was teaching, because they helped me to measure not only my students success, but mine as well.  However, here is another deeper dimension to teaching and learning success, something that can&#039;t really be quantified.  It has to be seen.  This is where I agree with Will, that it&#039;s the students work, their accomplishments, that should be displayed, not just scores.  I believe that parents want to know what, how, and why their children are being taught, not just how well.

Would love to hear more.  You do need a southerner, you know!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A great podcast.  The problem is that people like you and me are listening to this &#8212; people who already believe these things.  As they say, <i>&#8220;preaching to the choir&#8221;</i>.  This is important, because you have to teach the choir to sing.  But I agree with Tim, that there needs to be a broader sense of what students and teachers should be doing in the classroom.  It is this broader community who needs to be listening to this podcast.  Wouldn&#8217;t it be great if schools made this podcast file available through their school web site here at the beginning of the year.</p>
<p>I think, also, that as a society, we need to come to a consensus on what a successful school and classroom look like.  What do we see going on in them, and what are the measures of success?  Test scores are important.  I gave test when I was teaching, because they helped me to measure not only my students success, but mine as well.  However, here is another deeper dimension to teaching and learning success, something that can&#8217;t really be quantified.  It has to be seen.  This is where I agree with Will, that it&#8217;s the students work, their accomplishments, that should be displayed, not just scores.  I believe that parents want to know what, how, and why their children are being taught, not just how well.</p>
<p>Would love to hear more.  You do need a southerner, you know!</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Markham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete Markham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2005 23:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Listened to this podcast while I was walking the dogs this evening.  I thoroughly enjoyed it.  It was thought provoking and informative for me.  I&#039;m hoping you guys will do some more.  One of these days I&#039;m going to have to stop and see your setup too.  It looked great in the picture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Listened to this podcast while I was walking the dogs this evening.  I thoroughly enjoyed it.  It was thought provoking and informative for me.  I&#8217;m hoping you guys will do some more.  One of these days I&#8217;m going to have to stop and see your setup too.  It looked great in the picture.</p>
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		<title>By: Reflective Teacher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reflective Teacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2005 03:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Listened to it last night ,Tim, and I liked it a lot. Just my sort of thing (huddled over a computer on a cold winter&#039;s night, but summer will come again). Keep up the good work,
Jo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Listened to it last night ,Tim, and I liked it a lot. Just my sort of thing (huddled over a computer on a cold winter&#8217;s night, but summer will come again). Keep up the good work,<br />
Jo</p>
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		<title>By: StigmergicWeb &#187; Educational Technologists Coast to Coast Podcast</title>
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		<dc:creator>StigmergicWeb &#187; Educational Technologists Coast to Coast Podcast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2005 06:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The preponderance of educational technology blogs and podcasts made it inevitable that some of the participants would get together to start discussing some of the burning issues in the field of ed tech. Dean, Rick, Alec and I are still doing the EdTech Posse (although we are on a bit of a hiatus while my life is taken over by wedding preparations - and its not even my wedding. But I digress). Now Tim Wilson, Tim Lauer, Will Richardson and Steve Burt are getting into the groove with the Educational Technologists Coast to Coast Podcast. I haven&#8217;t had time to listen to the first podcast yet, but it is freshly downloaded. Once the aforementioned wedding is over, I shall return to my regular technology obsessed geek lifestyle and give it a good listen. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The preponderance of educational technology blogs and podcasts made it inevitable that some of the participants would get together to start discussing some of the burning issues in the field of ed tech. Dean, Rick, Alec and I are still doing the EdTech Posse (although we are on a bit of a hiatus while my life is taken over by wedding preparations &#8211; and its not even my wedding. But I digress). Now Tim Wilson, Tim Lauer, Will Richardson and Steve Burt are getting into the groove with the Educational Technologists Coast to Coast Podcast. I haven&#8217;t had time to listen to the first podcast yet, but it is freshly downloaded. Once the aforementioned wedding is over, I shall return to my regular technology obsessed geek lifestyle and give it a good listen. [...]</p>
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